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[PlastikRevolution]

Come continuazione dell'altro thread "The politics of piracy"
http://popolodellarete.it/showthread.php?t=1289

Ecco un'altra lobby che nasce...

http://propiracy.org/article/1

New international piracy collaboration launched

PRESS RELEASE 070610
FOR IMMEDIATE PUBLISHING

Following the raid against the popular file sharing website The Pirate Bay, several Nordic organizations launch the international project The Pro Piracy Lobby. Their aim is to create a common ground for further discussion and cooperation.

- The interest in file sharing, piracy and the Internet in general increases exponentially each day, says Tobias Andersson from the swedish Piratbyrån (The Bureau of Piracy). Pirate groups and parties are being grown as flowers in springtime.

In Scandinavia cooperation across borders has already been fruitful. The swedish Piratbyrån has acted offensively and succeeded in inspiring the startup of both a Danish and a Norwegian Pirate Group. Together with the international file sharing website The Pirate Bay, Scandinavia has established itself as a prominent figure in the debate concerning intellectual property and piracy.

- Together we have accomplished a great foundation for bringing forth critique of the dominant media corporations, says Claus Pedersen from the danish Piratgruppen (The Piracy Group). We have become an important actor in the ongoing debate.

Lately, several actors have entered the international arena. Talks are being held with several independent Pirate Groups, but also piracy has entered the realm of politics. In several European countries, and also the U.S., political parties dedicated to piratism have emerged, inspired by the Swedish Pirate Party.

- We hope to soon present a world wide pirate network, says Tobias Andersson. First and foremost we want to offer our consultive services in starting and operating local groups.

Si torna inoltre a parlare delle assicurazioni...
http://www.propiracy.org/article/3
Insurance company for pirates

Last week saw two new insurance companies emerge in Sweden. As the names Tankafritt.nu (http://tankafritt.nu) (Swedish, "download freely") and Delaut.se (http://delaut.se) (Swedish, "share") implies, the purpose is to let people download and upload freely, without worrying about persecution by various antipiracy groups.

For just 113 danish kroner (15.15 € / 19.29 US$ / 10.47 £) a year you can join tankafritt.nu's service in sweden, and if you recieve a compensation demand, the company pays. Additionally you recieve a t-shirt with the text "I was convicted of filesharing and all I got was a lousy t-shirt". According to the spokesperson for tankafritt.nu there are plans for expansion:

- We have plans for Denmark aswell. For now we are examining the legal grounds to see if it is possible, says Magnus Bråth, 29-year old owner of tankafritt.nu to the danish news agency Ritzau. It is important that we do not break the local law.
Jul 11, 2006 from Piratgruppen (NO)

The Pro Piracy Lobby is a joint effort of organisations throughout the world supporting information piracy and discussions on cultural production in the digital age.

[PlastikRevolution]

After one and a half month of absence, Piratbyråns website is now back online with full functionality.

Following is the official press release:
http://piratbyran.org/index.php?view=forum&a=thread&id=41426

On Wednesday, Piratbyrån (The Bureau of Piracy) went live with their old/new website. After one and a half month of absence from the internet, we can once again present a complete solution for anyone who is interested in piracy, file sharing and copyright criticism.

The central parts of the website is the ongoing news reporting and the forum, which has 60 000 members.

- We can now retake our place as the foremost copycritical news source on the net, says Tobias Andersson from Piratbyrån. Together with other news sites and blogs we make sure it will be impossible to miss all the exciting stuff that is happening on the area.

Piratbyrån's server and orginal data is still in police custody. Prosecutor Håkan Roswall refuses to end this custody. Data, however, is not dependent on being at a specific physical spot, and after a bit of juggeling, the website is back.

- Even though we have hardly been inactive, we are very happy to have regained our place on the Internet, Tobias Andersson says. It's from here our activity is coordinated.

During the time that the website has been offline, Piratbyrån has, among other things, organized a large demonstration concering the Pirate Bay raid, written debate articles, held conversations with politicians from practically every party, negotiated in the city court, held speeches in Almedalen, initiated a large international lobby organisation and bought a lock of hair from Thomas Bodström.

We wish all our new and old readers welcome to our website. Have fun on the Internet!


When the Swedish police got the order from prosecutor Roswall, he himself haven gotten subtle hints from the government working under MPAA pressure, to raid the Pirate Bay, Swedish tax payers were blessed with the chance to finance an operation concerning tens of officers on a number of places all over Sweden. Despite this, it took the Pirate Bay no more than three days to get back online.

Piratbyrån is a bit more dependent on user content and large chunks of bigger data as well as a smooth system for the ongoing news coverage and handling of the forum for large numbers of users - users that was left stranded along with everyone else in this ongoing farse.

Nor does Piratbyrån get any help with funding by advertising companies, and rely completely on other means, particularily the hard work of its users and crew, to get it going. Given these facts and the astonishing attention Piratbyrån has gotten since the raid and the following demonstration, many to-do lists have been filled for most hours of the day. This has made it more difficult for Piratbyrån to regain their full functionlity.

But Piratbyrån has done what pirates have always done - instead of simply trusting others to solve problems for them, they have acted to solve the problems themselves. The website is currently independent on the servers some authority representatives with half an idea of what they are doing is digging through at the moment - in an investigation where Piratbyrån isn't even involved.

Now, this functionality is back, even though all backed up data from the forums and the news archives made before the raid still remain in the loving care of various Swedish authorities. It's about time. As soon as the prosecutor gets his act together and allows the police force to return Piratbyråns property to Piratbyrån, old data will be made available again.

And while on the subject - the world online community still demand of the authorities mentioned above: Release the data you have abducted and now hold in captivity for political reasons.

[PlastikRevolution]

http://thepiratebay.org/blog.php?id=34
TPB announces it support for ACFI (Armed Coalition Forces of the Internets)

We will not sit down and let this go on anymore!

The people of Ladonia need our help - we at TPB do NOT agree to what is going on

in the rouge nation of Ladonia!

Today we hereby announce our support for ACFI, the group behind

http://implodeladonia.net (http://implodeladonia.net)

- "ACFI has been working under cover for quite some time to get information on Ladonia and its goverment.

We will support any action taken by ACFI against Ladonia in this matter!" says Pirate Bay Chairman of the Joint chiefs of staff Brokep.

Ladonia, you stand no chance! Our weapons of mass distribution is pointed at your borders and we are

ready to plug in the cable! Surrender now and let the Kopimist regime enter!

Posted Today 17:07 da The Pirate Bay

[Enzo Mazza]

sano giornalismo d'inchiesta che scopre gli altarini del pirate bay


Idealistic pirates at bay over Swedish file sharing: The founders of the bastion of large-scale file
sharing have come under attack following reports of large profits from advertising
Andrew Brown
258 words
27 July 2006
The Guardian
5
English
© Copyright 2006. The Guardian. All rights reserved.
The Pirate Bay, a site based in Stockholm, is one of the last hubs for large-scale piracy using the peer-to-peer
system BitTorrent. It doesn't just encourage piracy, it glories in it, offering a search engine to help users find
pirated content, and it is closely associated with a political party that aims to make file sharing legal in Sweden
( http://tinyurl.com/ef2rr ). But its idealistic image has been dented by the investigations of a Stockholm
newspaper, which has discovered that the company is making large sums from advertising.
The Pirate Bay's founders, Fredrik Neij and Gottfrid Svartholm Warg, face prison sentences of up to two years if
they are found to have profited from copyright violations. If they had run the site as a non-profit operation,
precedent suggests they would have been only fined.
Svenska Dagbladet, a Stockholm morning paper, claims the site is making tens of thousands of pounds every
month from advertising: the firm that handles the site's Swedish business told the Guardian that the largest ads
cost 200,000 SEK (about pounds 14,700) and that they had sold four of these, and a great many smaller ads in
the last month. The price has risen in the past few weeks after the government's attempts to shut the site
brought widespread publicity.

[PlastikRevolution]

con la pubblicità su internet si fanno molti soldi...

ma temo Lei non abbia la più pallida idea di quante DECINE DI MIGLIAIA di euro AL MESE costi mantere UP un "network" come quello di piratebay...

il guadagno è ricavi - spese... se i ricavi equivalgono le spese... non c'è guadagno o no? :D

Penso sia da riflettere sul fatto che ci sono molte aziende legali e regolarmente registrate disposte ad investire così tanti soldi in siti "pirata"...

Non riesco poi a spiegarmi perchè gli admin di TPB siano costretti a lavorare... non dovrebbero essere già tutti milionari e passare le giornate scaricando materiale pirata? rotfl
Se davvero avessero tutti questi soldi avanzati... non potrebbero dare una bella spinta per la legalizzazione? che so... acquistare pubblicità in TV come fanno qui da noi sotto elezioni i vari politici, potersi permettere avvocati stratosferici etc. etc. etc.???

purtroppo le supposizioni contano poco... sono i numeri a parlare:

thepiratebay
1053155 registered users.
1382314 peers (1110615 leechers + 271699 seeders) in 122324 torrents su tracker.

myspace di utenti registrati ormai ne farà quasi 90 milioni... soltanto 9volte gli utenti di TPB? :o

1382314 peers = pc collegati ai loro server in ogni istante... e qui non so se il confronto con myspace possa reggere :D

[Enzo Mazza]

soprattutto interessante il fatto che il sito abbia aumentato i prezzi degli spazi dopo la pubblicità ricavata dal sequestro e dalle polemiche...

[PlastikRevolution]

soprattutto interessante il fatto che il sito abbia aumentato i prezzi degli spazi dopo la pubblicità ricavata dal sequestro e dalle polemiche...

sono stati sequestrati quasi 200server (non tutti di proprietà dei TPB)

parliamo di macchine che vanno da un minimo di 2000euro per la più semplice ... a 5000/6000 euro per un database server magari su quad opteron etc....

direi che è il minimo tentare di ripagare all'isp parte dei danni che i suoi clienti hanno subito... oltre a riaquistare altre macchine equivalenti a quelle sotto sequestro...

[xWolverinex]

The Pirate Bay's founders, Fredrik Neij and Gottfrid Svartholm Warg, face prison sentences of up to two years if
they are found to have profited from copyright violations.

Spero che il Guardian non abbia pagato per questo servizio :D Peccato che eventualmente gli autori del sito non guadagnano dalle violazioni di copyright (come sarebbe se vendessero dei cd con film masterizzati) ma guadagnano dall'affittare uno spazio web. Visto che poi sui loro server non c'e' materiale illegale....
Ma mi chiedo quant'era difficile fare questa fantastica indagine per scoprire l'insospettabile :D Cioe' piu' che altro che bisogno c'era di fare una indagine per vedere una cosa chiara dal primo momento che visiti il sito.... ;)

[PlastikRevolution]

http://www.stealthisfilm.com/

http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/151/stfve1.jpg (http://www.stealthisfilm.com)


The first part of a free documentary series about file-sharing. This part focuses on The Pirate Bay, the world's biggest Bittorrent tracker, and copyfighters Piratbyran. It includes interviews with Anakata, Brokep, Tiamo and others -- plus some pretty cool pro-filesharing propaganda!

IN 2006, A GROUP OF FRIENDS DECIDED TO MAKE A FILM ABOUT FILESHARING THAT *WE* WOULD RECOGNISE.

THERE HAVE BEEN A FEW DOCUMENTARIES BY 'OLD MEDIA' CREWS WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND THE NET AND SEE PEER-TO-PEER ORGANISATION AS A THREAT TO THEIR LIVELIHOODS. THEY HAVE NO REASON TO REPRESENT THE FILESHARING MOVEMENT POSITIVELY, AND NO CAPACITY TO REPRESENT IT LUCIDLY.

WE WANTED TO MAKE A FILM THAT WOULD EXPLORE THIS HUGE POPULAR MOVEMENT IN A WAY THAT EXCITED US, ENGAGED US, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, FOCUSSED ON WHAT WE KNOW TO BE THE POSITIVE AND OPTIMISTIC VISION MANY FILESHARERS AND ARTISTS (THEY ARE OFTEN ONE) HAVE FOR THE FUTURE OF CREATIVITY.

HOPEFULLY YOU'LL ENJOY THE FIRST PART OF STEAL THIS FILM ('STOCKHOLM, SUMMER 2006'). IT ACHIEVES SOME, BUT BY NO MEANS ALL, OF OUR GOALS.

AUGUST 2006 - À NOUS LA LIBERTÉ!


L'alternativa alle intro nei cinema? :D
Di sicuro un film che merita di essere visto... sopratutto dato il prezzo a cui viene proposto... ;)

[Luke]

sano giornalismo d'inchiesta che scopre gli altarini del pirate bay



Mai pensato che campassero d'aria, ma almeno è una battaglia che condivido.

[Enzo Mazza]

l'articolo completo dal giornale svedese che ha svolto l'inchiesta

Svenska Dagbladet investigates
NON-COMMERCIAL? The filesharing site, Pirate Bay, is more than just the non-profit hobby project the founders claim. SvD’s investigation shows that Pirate Bay makes hundreds of thousands of Kronor every month in advertising revenue, and this may lead to considerably more severe penalties if they are convicted.

Adverts may be the downfall of Pirate Bay
If the filesharing site is regarded as commercial, the penalties may be severe

The men behind Pirate Bay admit they make money from running the site. The Public Prosecutor will now carry out a special investigation into Pirate Bay's income - if the site's founders make a financial profit on the operation, the penalties on conviction would be considerably more severe.
Just over a month has passed since the police carried out a very public raid on the Swedish filesharing site, Pirate Bay. Fredrik Neij and Gottfrid Svartholm Warg, who run the site, describe it as a hobby project.

But in actual fact, Pirate Bay currently makes a great deal of money from selling advertising space. According to SvD’s calculations, the sale of advertising on Pirate Bay brings in several hundred thousand Kronor every month (see article on next page).

Some of the money is retained by the advertising agencies as commission. According to Fredrik Neij, he ”has absolutely no idea” how it works, but the payments are made. The money goes to run the site.

"Most of it is used to pay invoices, particularly now that we have had to buy new hardware", says Fredrik Neij.
Procuring new equipment after the police confiscated the old equipment has cost around SEK 100,000.

Three years ago, when you started Pirate Bay, you did not have any substantial advertising income, but you still managed to run the site very successfully – where is all the money you are now making going?

”Now we want to invest to make the site available on more locations, so that even if the police shut it down, it will be up and running again within minutes. Work on this has started, and we now have servers in Sweden and one other country. I don't want to say which one, to avoid any diplomatic action being taken", says Fredrik Neij.

But he does now admit that he and Gottfrid Svartholm Warg do make personal financial profit from running Pirate Bay.

”If there is any money left over, it will be paid as salary to those of us who work with Pirate Bay. At the moment, it is being held by the advertising company, and we are waiting until it becomes substantial before we pay it out.

The public prosecutor and the police are currently going through the large number of servers which have been confiscated. The people behind Pirate Bay are suspected primarily of breach of the Copyright Act, but the police will also be investigating their financial activities.

”We have not got as far as following the financial trail yet, but we will be doing so. If we find that the site is commercial, which would be the case if it is financed through advertising, this will have a considerable influence on the penalties involved. The sentence will be completely different if it turns out that they are making money from the operation", says District Public Prosecutor Håkan Roswall.

In previous copyright cases, where the accused made money from the breach of copyright, although this has not involved filesharing, a stiff prison sentence has been imposed", according to Håkan Roswall.

The police will go through the bookkeeping records and payment streams, focusing on the handling of advertising income. They will also investigate whether tax has been paid.

”It may also be necessary to bring in material from other companies who have had business relationships with them", says Håkan Roswall.

Last week, the Stockholm District Court decided that the police could retain a number of confiscated servers until December. The equipment belongs to the Internet company, PRQ, which is run by the men behind Pirate Bay, and it contains, among other things, the company's finance system.

According to Håkan Roswall, interesting information on financial surpluses may well come to light when the commercial aspects of Pirate Bay are investigated.

But he is not yet prepared to comment on whether he suspects that financial irregularities have taken place, nor on how much money he suspects the site may have earned.

He does not, however, rule out the possibility that the Swedish National Economic Crimes Bureau may be involved at a later stage.
Fredrik Neij has a personal tax liability of SEK 179,089, but this has no bearing on the Pirate Bay case, according to Håkan Roswall.

A decision on the case is not expected before the end of the year.

Facts

How Pirate Bay works

Filesharing means sharing data files such as music, films and games via the Internet.

Pirate Bay is a site which helps Internet users exchange files with each other.

The site is a "tracker", which means that it functions as a search engine.

Consequently, Pirate Bay has no copyright-protected material on its own servers, but helps to distribute such material.

The story so far:

31 May
Over 50 police officers carry out house searches at 10 locations in Sweden, targeting the filesharing site, Pirate Bay, which is suspected of breaches of the Copyright Act.
Over a hundred servers are seized, and three men are taken in for questioning. The servers belong to the Internet company, PRQ, whose owners run Pirate Bay.

1 June
According to reports in the mass media, the US government and the film industry exerted pressure on the Swedish Minister of Justice, Thomas Bodström, to close down Pirate Bay, and he then put pressure on the police and the prosecutor. Mr Bodström denies the allegations.
In the evening, the police website crashes as a result of an overload attack from angry filesharers.

2 June
Thomas Bodström is reported to the Parliamentary Standing Committee on the Constitution for alleged pressure on the police and prosecutor. The Parliamentary Ombudsman announces that the matter will be investigated.

3 June
Pirate Bay appears again on the Internet. The Swedish Government's website is blocked for eight hours by an attack.

5 June
The Piratbyrån [the Pirate Agency] organisation, which is closely linked to Pirate Bay, issued an appeal to Internet users to stop attacking the authorities' websites.

14 June
Over ten companies, which were affected, through no fault of their own, by the crackdown on PRQ, apply to the Attorney-General for damages for loss of revenue as a result of the confiscations by the police.

20 June
New revelations on the Swedish TV news programme, Rapport, claiming that the USA threatened Sweden with trade sanctions to induce the Swedish police to crack down on Pirate Bay.
Dan Eliasson, Undersecretary of State to Thomas Bodström, confirms that there had been "comments" from the US side about the possibility of trade sanctions, but says that neither he nor Mr Bodström had spoken to US politicians on the matter.

28 June
The Stockholm District Court rejects a request from PRQ that the police should return the company's servers.

ERIK BERGIN
Reporter
erik.bergin@svd.se

TOBIAS BRANDEL
Reporter
tobias.brandel@svd.se

RESEARCH: PETER KARLSSON, KATARINA LARSSON

[PlastikRevolution]

tutto molto bello...

peccato che non mi risulta Fredrik faccia soldi scambiando file (non penso proprio venda cd pirata con quello che scarica).

al massimo fa soldi gestendo un sito internet come fanno moltissime altre persone, come fa pure youtube...

in entrambi i casi youtube, e tpb, può capitare (visto che sono siti che vanno avanti con i contributi delle persone) che qualcuno carichi materiale coperto da copyright...

la differenza sostaziole è che TBP NON DISTRIBUISCE UN SINGOLO BIT DI QUEL MATERIALE e non mi risulta che in Svezia si illegale distribuire un .torrent, youtube INVECE DISTRIBUISCE!

Sui giornali se ne leggono di tutti i colori... vediamo cosa scriveranno tra 1 mese dopo le elezioni in Svezia ;)

Ah... poi usano pure un .org come dominio principale... e non sono nemmeno gli unici ad usarlo... :D

pro-music.org

http://www.pir.org/AboutORG/AboutORG.aspx

.ORG is the home of noncommercial organizations on the Internet. Every organization that registers a .ORG Web site, and by extension, everyone who visits those sites, is a member of the .ORG community.

rotfl